Listening to the radio again (mp3 here). This time it was about Alfred McCoy's article called 'Outcast of Camp Echo: The Punishment of David Hicks' (magazine website here) with overtones of "The President Versus David Hicks" and mind control.
The second interview was with Bobby Kennedy Jr about his Rolling Stone article "Was the 2004 Election Stolen?" (moby mirror). The implication is that if the result was in a country like Ukraine or Georgia then the result would've been overturned.